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		<title>By: TextMate to Vim transition resources &#124; The Celsius1414 Journal</title>
		<link>http://www.artfulcode.net/articles/from-textmate-to-vim/comment-page-1/#comment-3205</link>
		<dc:creator>TextMate to Vim transition resources &#124; The Celsius1414 Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 05:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Ober (Artful Code): &#8220;From TextMate to Vim&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.artfulcode.net/articles/from-textmate-to-vim/comment-page-1/#comment-2143</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 06:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some things are just not as polished in vim though (relative to textmate) that still have me frustrated. For example, despite how great file navigation is, it&#039;s often nice to have a project tree (especially when first learning rails), so I installed NERDTree. Ok, fine, but now when you&#039;re in nerd tree and you start doing things you have to remember to leave the nerdtree window and move back to your main window or else you can end up opening things in the nerd tree buffer. 

For example, I use command-t plugin (way better than fuzzy finder btw), but if you are in the nerdTree buffer and try to open a file with command-t, it&#039;ll open the file in the nerdTree buffer. You can get around with this by hitting ctrl-k first but that&#039;s sort of a pain.

Right now I&#039;m also having issues with code folding in vim, I&#039;m using indent as the &#039;foldmethod&#039; type, and the behavior is just really odd. I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll get it worked out as to what&#039;s wrong, but the time I have to constantly spend &#039;mucking around&#039; in vim - with my .vimrc file, plugins, etc gets very time consuming. (I know it should pay off in the end, but it seems to be a never ending thing I&#039;m having to do.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some things are just not as polished in vim though (relative to textmate) that still have me frustrated. For example, despite how great file navigation is, it&#8217;s often nice to have a project tree (especially when first learning rails), so I installed NERDTree. Ok, fine, but now when you&#8217;re in nerd tree and you start doing things you have to remember to leave the nerdtree window and move back to your main window or else you can end up opening things in the nerd tree buffer. </p>
<p>For example, I use command-t plugin (way better than fuzzy finder btw), but if you are in the nerdTree buffer and try to open a file with command-t, it&#8217;ll open the file in the nerdTree buffer. You can get around with this by hitting ctrl-k first but that&#8217;s sort of a pain.</p>
<p>Right now I&#8217;m also having issues with code folding in vim, I&#8217;m using indent as the &#8216;foldmethod&#8217; type, and the behavior is just really odd. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll get it worked out as to what&#8217;s wrong, but the time I have to constantly spend &#8216;mucking around&#8217; in vim &#8211; with my .vimrc file, plugins, etc gets very time consuming. (I know it should pay off in the end, but it seems to be a never ending thing I&#8217;m having to do.)</p>
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		<title>By: Von TextMate zu VIM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Von TextMate zu VIM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 13:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Thorarinn Sigurdsson</title>
		<link>http://www.artfulcode.net/articles/from-textmate-to-vim/comment-page-1/#comment-2036</link>
		<dc:creator>Thorarinn Sigurdsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 00:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also love Vim. The modal editing model is, simply put, the greatest thing since sliced bread. But, by design, it&#039;s not very flexible. I read that vi was designed to interface with other unix applications that would handle non-editing tasks, while vi itself was only supposed to be a pure editor. Integrating your editor into your workflow - debugging etc. - is absolutely essential.

I was hungering for that kind of integration, and therefore I&#039;m currently using Emacs with Vimpulse (an enhanced version of viper-mode), and loving it. Of course it doesn&#039;t quite feel like 100% vim when editing (I&#039;d say I&#039;m at about 95% of my pure-vim editing efficiency), but the integration of external features (debugging, etc) is very attractive to me. On the whole, I feel like I&#039;m getting the best of both worlds. I still have Vim&#039;s editing efficiency, while getting access to emacs&#039; crazy extensibility and all those IDE-attributes that Vim was never intended to take on. I could say that my editor is still Vim, but the IDE is Emacs.

Has anyone been through a similar experience?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also love Vim. The modal editing model is, simply put, the greatest thing since sliced bread. But, by design, it&#8217;s not very flexible. I read that vi was designed to interface with other unix applications that would handle non-editing tasks, while vi itself was only supposed to be a pure editor. Integrating your editor into your workflow &#8211; debugging etc. &#8211; is absolutely essential.</p>
<p>I was hungering for that kind of integration, and therefore I&#8217;m currently using Emacs with Vimpulse (an enhanced version of viper-mode), and loving it. Of course it doesn&#8217;t quite feel like 100% vim when editing (I&#8217;d say I&#8217;m at about 95% of my pure-vim editing efficiency), but the integration of external features (debugging, etc) is very attractive to me. On the whole, I feel like I&#8217;m getting the best of both worlds. I still have Vim&#8217;s editing efficiency, while getting access to emacs&#8217; crazy extensibility and all those IDE-attributes that Vim was never intended to take on. I could say that my editor is still Vim, but the IDE is Emacs.</p>
<p>Has anyone been through a similar experience?</p>
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		<title>By: jd</title>
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		<dc:creator>jd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vim definitely, i&#039;ve tried textmate and coda for a hot minute, but why bother...vim is more advanced and if you know all the commands, faster than the latter will ever be plus i can use it if I am in ssh, on an ever popular ubuntu/redhat orr windows. if i want something more its straight into eclipse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vim definitely, i&#8217;ve tried textmate and coda for a hot minute, but why bother&#8230;vim is more advanced and if you know all the commands, faster than the latter will ever be plus i can use it if I am in ssh, on an ever popular ubuntu/redhat orr windows. if i want something more its straight into eclipse.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian K. Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian K. Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe nobody has mentioned Komodo Edit (the free one -- Komodo IDE costs money). It has vi keybindings. The support is not extensive to the point of being able to say &#039;this is vim embedded in komodo&#039;, but it&#039;s pretty good, and world&#039;s better than the attempts I&#039;ve seen at a vim plugin for textmate. The vim keybindings support a good amount of the movement functionality, which is really the bulk of what I want (need, really: if I don&#039;t have it I end up with j&#039;s and k&#039;s in my code). 

It supports h,j,k,l, find using &#039;/&#039; and &#039;n&#039; for &#039;next&#039;, moving by word, $ and 0 for begin/end of line, G to jump to a line number (or just &#039;G&#039; to jump to end of file), x, dd, Y, p/P, zc/zo for code-folding... there&#039;s more I&#039;m not remembering to be sure. It even supports :w, which will open a &#039;save as...&#039; dialog for new files. Unfortunately, if you want to save the current file under a different name, you still have to use the menus for that for whatever reason, but you get a lot of features, and the editor doesn&#039;t slow down a bit. I&#039;ve been using it for at least a couple years now. 

I use vim if I have to edit remote code, and I&#039;ve recently started playing with MacVim to see if it adds any benefit (I can&#039;t find one at first glance). I&#039;m always on the lookout for a &quot;killer editor&quot;, though :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe nobody has mentioned Komodo Edit (the free one &#8212; Komodo IDE costs money). It has vi keybindings. The support is not extensive to the point of being able to say &#8216;this is vim embedded in komodo&#8217;, but it&#8217;s pretty good, and world&#8217;s better than the attempts I&#8217;ve seen at a vim plugin for textmate. The vim keybindings support a good amount of the movement functionality, which is really the bulk of what I want (need, really: if I don&#8217;t have it I end up with j&#8217;s and k&#8217;s in my code). </p>
<p>It supports h,j,k,l, find using &#8216;/&#8217; and &#8216;n&#8217; for &#8216;next&#8217;, moving by word, $ and 0 for begin/end of line, G to jump to a line number (or just &#8216;G&#8217; to jump to end of file), x, dd, Y, p/P, zc/zo for code-folding&#8230; there&#8217;s more I&#8217;m not remembering to be sure. It even supports :w, which will open a &#8216;save as&#8230;&#8217; dialog for new files. Unfortunately, if you want to save the current file under a different name, you still have to use the menus for that for whatever reason, but you get a lot of features, and the editor doesn&#8217;t slow down a bit. I&#8217;ve been using it for at least a couple years now. </p>
<p>I use vim if I have to edit remote code, and I&#8217;ve recently started playing with MacVim to see if it adds any benefit (I can&#8217;t find one at first glance). I&#8217;m always on the lookout for a &#8220;killer editor&#8221;, though :)</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really tried to like textmate but realized I would be paying 50 dollars for the command-T functionality because that&#039;s the only thing I found useful. 
No thanks. 
I&#039;ll stick with macvim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really tried to like textmate but realized I would be paying 50 dollars for the command-T functionality because that&#8217;s the only thing I found useful.<br />
No thanks.<br />
I&#8217;ll stick with macvim.</p>
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		<title>By: littleredspiders</title>
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		<dc:creator>littleredspiders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Vim. It&#039;s an excellent editor for someone with small fingers (Emacs kicks all sorts of booty, but the modifier keys are RSI-inducing if you try to use them at speed with short fingers).

The apparent stagnation of Textmate led me to trying out MacVim, which I liked lots and from there I started testing all sorts of FLOSS applications with a view to replacing what I was using daily. I found out that Inkscape and Gimp did what I needed them to and so I could kiss goodbye to hefty Adobe licences (I design for screen only so no need for CMYK in Gimp). After that I just took the plunge - ditched OS X to go fully FLOSS.

And I&#039;m loving it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Vim. It&#8217;s an excellent editor for someone with small fingers (Emacs kicks all sorts of booty, but the modifier keys are RSI-inducing if you try to use them at speed with short fingers).</p>
<p>The apparent stagnation of Textmate led me to trying out MacVim, which I liked lots and from there I started testing all sorts of FLOSS applications with a view to replacing what I was using daily. I found out that Inkscape and Gimp did what I needed them to and so I could kiss goodbye to hefty Adobe licences (I design for screen only so no need for CMYK in Gimp). After that I just took the plunge &#8211; ditched OS X to go fully FLOSS.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m loving it.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since your a Mac user, give MacVim a try. It&#039;s VIM beautifully integrated into Mac.

Good article. Except for the last statement about OS X&#039;s terminal not being scriptable. What exactly do you mean by that? The terminal shell is bash, easily (one of) the most scriptable shell interface(s) on the planet. Always remember that your pretty Mac UI is a fully certified UNIX OS underneath, and that your terminal is your interface into that underlying OS. Whatever you wan to script in that shell, I assure you that you can do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since your a Mac user, give MacVim a try. It&#8217;s VIM beautifully integrated into Mac.</p>
<p>Good article. Except for the last statement about OS X&#8217;s terminal not being scriptable. What exactly do you mean by that? The terminal shell is bash, easily (one of) the most scriptable shell interface(s) on the planet. Always remember that your pretty Mac UI is a fully certified UNIX OS underneath, and that your terminal is your interface into that underlying OS. Whatever you wan to script in that shell, I assure you that you can do it.</p>
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		<title>By: TT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, VIM is handy only when emacs is not around (not in default installation in most *nix dist. For me, emacs rocks. If i need something more managable, TextMate is my best friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, VIM is handy only when emacs is not around (not in default installation in most *nix dist. For me, emacs rocks. If i need something more managable, TextMate is my best friend.</p>
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