Comments on: From TextMate to Vim http://www.artfulcode.net/articles/from-textmate-to-vim/ Resources and tips for dynamic, interactive languages. Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:00:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Brian K. Jones http://www.artfulcode.net/articles/from-textmate-to-vim/comment-page-1/#comment-1945 Brian K. Jones Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:06:17 +0000 http://www.artfulcode.net/?p=756#comment-1945 I can't believe nobody has mentioned Komodo Edit (the free one -- Komodo IDE costs money). It has vi keybindings. The support is not extensive to the point of being able to say 'this is vim embedded in komodo', but it's pretty good, and world's better than the attempts I've seen at a vim plugin for textmate. The vim keybindings support a good amount of the movement functionality, which is really the bulk of what I want (need, really: if I don't have it I end up with j's and k's in my code). It supports h,j,k,l, find using '/' and 'n' for 'next', moving by word, $ and 0 for begin/end of line, G to jump to a line number (or just 'G' to jump to end of file), x, dd, Y, p/P, zc/zo for code-folding... there's more I'm not remembering to be sure. It even supports :w, which will open a 'save as...' dialog for new files. Unfortunately, if you want to save the current file under a different name, you still have to use the menus for that for whatever reason, but you get a lot of features, and the editor doesn't slow down a bit. I've been using it for at least a couple years now. I use vim if I have to edit remote code, and I've recently started playing with MacVim to see if it adds any benefit (I can't find one at first glance). I'm always on the lookout for a "killer editor", though :) I can’t believe nobody has mentioned Komodo Edit (the free one — Komodo IDE costs money). It has vi keybindings. The support is not extensive to the point of being able to say ‘this is vim embedded in komodo’, but it’s pretty good, and world’s better than the attempts I’ve seen at a vim plugin for textmate. The vim keybindings support a good amount of the movement functionality, which is really the bulk of what I want (need, really: if I don’t have it I end up with j’s and k’s in my code).

It supports h,j,k,l, find using ‘/’ and ‘n’ for ‘next’, moving by word, $ and 0 for begin/end of line, G to jump to a line number (or just ‘G’ to jump to end of file), x, dd, Y, p/P, zc/zo for code-folding… there’s more I’m not remembering to be sure. It even supports :w, which will open a ’save as…’ dialog for new files. Unfortunately, if you want to save the current file under a different name, you still have to use the menus for that for whatever reason, but you get a lot of features, and the editor doesn’t slow down a bit. I’ve been using it for at least a couple years now.

I use vim if I have to edit remote code, and I’ve recently started playing with MacVim to see if it adds any benefit (I can’t find one at first glance). I’m always on the lookout for a “killer editor”, though :)

]]> By: paul http://www.artfulcode.net/articles/from-textmate-to-vim/comment-page-1/#comment-1884 paul Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:20:04 +0000 http://www.artfulcode.net/?p=756#comment-1884 I really tried to like textmate but realized I would be paying 50 dollars for the command-T functionality because that's the only thing I found useful. No thanks. I'll stick with macvim. I really tried to like textmate but realized I would be paying 50 dollars for the command-T functionality because that’s the only thing I found useful.
No thanks.
I’ll stick with macvim.

]]> By: littleredspiders http://www.artfulcode.net/articles/from-textmate-to-vim/comment-page-1/#comment-1766 littleredspiders Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:07:08 +0000 http://www.artfulcode.net/?p=756#comment-1766 I love Vim. It's an excellent editor for someone with small fingers (Emacs kicks all sorts of booty, but the modifier keys are RSI-inducing if you try to use them at speed with short fingers). The apparent stagnation of Textmate led me to trying out MacVim, which I liked lots and from there I started testing all sorts of FLOSS applications with a view to replacing what I was using daily. I found out that Inkscape and Gimp did what I needed them to and so I could kiss goodbye to hefty Adobe licences (I design for screen only so no need for CMYK in Gimp). After that I just took the plunge - ditched OS X to go fully FLOSS. And I'm loving it. I love Vim. It’s an excellent editor for someone with small fingers (Emacs kicks all sorts of booty, but the modifier keys are RSI-inducing if you try to use them at speed with short fingers).

The apparent stagnation of Textmate led me to trying out MacVim, which I liked lots and from there I started testing all sorts of FLOSS applications with a view to replacing what I was using daily. I found out that Inkscape and Gimp did what I needed them to and so I could kiss goodbye to hefty Adobe licences (I design for screen only so no need for CMYK in Gimp). After that I just took the plunge – ditched OS X to go fully FLOSS.

And I’m loving it.

]]> By: Shaun http://www.artfulcode.net/articles/from-textmate-to-vim/comment-page-1/#comment-1762 Shaun Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:52:16 +0000 http://www.artfulcode.net/?p=756#comment-1762 Since your a Mac user, give MacVim a try. It's VIM beautifully integrated into Mac. Good article. Except for the last statement about OS X's terminal not being scriptable. What exactly do you mean by that? The terminal shell is bash, easily (one of) the most scriptable shell interface(s) on the planet. Always remember that your pretty Mac UI is a fully certified UNIX OS underneath, and that your terminal is your interface into that underlying OS. Whatever you wan to script in that shell, I assure you that you can do it. Since your a Mac user, give MacVim a try. It’s VIM beautifully integrated into Mac.

Good article. Except for the last statement about OS X’s terminal not being scriptable. What exactly do you mean by that? The terminal shell is bash, easily (one of) the most scriptable shell interface(s) on the planet. Always remember that your pretty Mac UI is a fully certified UNIX OS underneath, and that your terminal is your interface into that underlying OS. Whatever you wan to script in that shell, I assure you that you can do it.

]]> By: TT http://www.artfulcode.net/articles/from-textmate-to-vim/comment-page-1/#comment-1761 TT Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:13:17 +0000 http://www.artfulcode.net/?p=756#comment-1761 Sorry, VIM is handy only when emacs is not around (not in default installation in most *nix dist. For me, emacs rocks. If i need something more managable, TextMate is my best friend. Sorry, VIM is handy only when emacs is not around (not in default installation in most *nix dist. For me, emacs rocks. If i need something more managable, TextMate is my best friend.

]]> By: k00pa http://www.artfulcode.net/articles/from-textmate-to-vim/comment-page-1/#comment-1760 k00pa Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:28:40 +0000 http://www.artfulcode.net/?p=756#comment-1760 VIM FTW! VIM FTW! VIM FTW! VIM FTW! VIM FTW! Simple, vim is THE best editor :) VIM FTW!
VIM FTW!
VIM FTW!
VIM FTW!
VIM FTW!

Simple, vim is THE best editor :)

]]> By: I never want to program without a REPL again (or, another reason I won’t miss J2EE) « Manni Wood http://www.artfulcode.net/articles/from-textmate-to-vim/comment-page-1/#comment-1759 I never want to program without a REPL again (or, another reason I won’t miss J2EE) « Manni Wood Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:51:59 +0000 http://www.artfulcode.net/?p=756#comment-1759 [...] just read a blog entry at artfulcode.net, where the author said “Vim 7 has auto-complete, although I rarely use it. [...] [...] just read a blog entry at artfulcode.net, where the author said “Vim 7 has auto-complete, although I rarely use it. [...]

]]> By: Sébastien http://www.artfulcode.net/articles/from-textmate-to-vim/comment-page-1/#comment-1758 Sébastien Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:08:34 +0000 http://www.artfulcode.net/?p=756#comment-1758 I use Emacs with Vim key bindings (Viper + wimpulse.el). I love it. I use Emacs with Vim key bindings (Viper + wimpulse.el). I love it.

]]> By: Stephen http://www.artfulcode.net/articles/from-textmate-to-vim/comment-page-1/#comment-1756 Stephen Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:49:38 +0000 http://www.artfulcode.net/?p=756#comment-1756 Until Textmate 2 comes out, I will assuredly be staying on jEdit for all of my development. Fast, with configurable folding, a well-designed project management plugin, excellent large file support, and oodles more features. If you're willing to put up with ugly looks on OS X, then this is absolutely the best editor I've ever come across. Until Textmate 2 comes out, I will assuredly be staying on jEdit for all of my development. Fast, with configurable folding, a well-designed project management plugin, excellent large file support, and oodles more features. If you’re willing to put up with ugly looks on OS X, then this is absolutely the best editor I’ve ever come across.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.artfulcode.net/articles/from-textmate-to-vim/comment-page-1/#comment-1755 Jeff Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:15:49 +0000 http://www.artfulcode.net/?p=756#comment-1755 I've never actually been able to get PIDA working on OSX, since the macports GTK packages are broken. I'm working on getting a linux book for work, though, and perhaps I'll try PIDA on that. I’ve never actually been able to get PIDA working on OSX, since the macports GTK packages are broken. I’m working on getting a linux book for work, though, and perhaps I’ll try PIDA on that.

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